If you are considering going deep fire with your mage at lvl 70…I would suggest that you do not…..
I tried the deep fire raid build from wowwiki and what i was supposed to get for bonus dmg and what
I really got were about 130 spell dmg difference…..best one i found so far was a 47/11/3 deep arcane
with enough in fire for pyro ( POM-PYRO)
toons are Beaverwillow(holy pally-JC/mining 375), Catullus(arc/fire mage-tailor/alchemy-375), Justtryit
(prot warrior- Blacksmithing/mining 375)
First Name: Karen
Age: 57
Is this your main: This is my highest level character
Heroic keys: no
Past Raid Experience: Upper Black Rock
Times that you usually are on server time: 6 pm till 8 pm weekdays. Varies on weekends
Days a week you play wow: usually every day
Days a week you CANT play wow: none for now
How many hours a day do you usually play for: 2 or 3
Kara attuned if not have you started and if
so how far into the quest chain are you: Need the 2nd and 3rd parts
Do you have your normal flyer atleast: yes
Would you be willing to respec for raids: maaaybeee
Are you on a arena team 2v2 3v3 5v5: no
What are your professions: mining, skinning, fishing, cooking
Something interesting about yourself: I live in Texas with my dog and 2 cats. I work full time in a chemistry lab. I've played MMORPGs since Ultima Online first came out many years ago. I'll probably never be a hardcore raider…too time consuming.
Ok here's my current spec:
Here's what I was originally going for:
Question is- Should I continue with this idea? I'm starting to find it harder to lvl up with it is now. But I'm not sure if it's because of the spec, or the fact that I'm duel wielding daggers…
Any ideas/suggestions would be a great help!!
Thanks
Shir
First Name: Mike'l or Mike
Age:18
Is this your main: Yes
Heroic keys: Auchindoun, hellfire citedel.
Past Raid Experience: Molten Core.
Times that you usually are on server time: On offdays 10 AM -12PM , on school days 4pm- 10pm
Days a week you play wow: 5
Days a week you CANT play wow: some times saturday or sunday
How many hours a day do you usually play for: Too many..
Kara attuned if not have you started and if
so how far into the quest chain are you: yes
Do you have your normal flyer atleast: yes
Would you be willing to respec for raids: yes
Are you on a arena team 2v2 3v3 5v5: no
What are your professions:Mining/Blacksmithing
Link to your wowarmory.com profile:
Something interesting about yourself: I play guitar, and ride ATV's , i once had a girl friend from the netherlands.
First Name: AJ
Age: Thirtysomething ;P
Is this your main: Yep
Heroic keys: not yet
Past Raid Experience: zippo
Times that you usually are on server time: Around college classes, so no set time
Days a week you play wow: Any
Days a week you CANT play wow: Sat- usually group with an old Air Force buddy in WoW
How many hours a day do you usually play for: 5-6 (have played up to 20… but pay for it the next day or two)
Kara attuned if not have you started and if
so how far into the quest chain are you: NO
Do you have your normal flyer atleast: Only lvl 60 so NO
Would you be willing to respec for raids: Talk to me in game and give me a really good reason to respec ;P
Are you on a arena team 2v2 3v3 5v5: no
What are your professions: Mining & Engineering
Link to your wowarmory.com profile: meh just go here
Something interesting about yourself: Attempting to get CCNA
Hey if anyone else needs BRD, or is willing to do a BRD run, please let me know if you see me online!!!
Got five quests for it that I desperately need to get cleared up.
Many thanks!
Shir
Just hit level 70 and want to quickly gear up for tanking duties in Karazhan or heroics? Don't want to run 5-man instances over and over hoping for just 1 item to drop?
Here is a list of some of the better L70 pre-Karazhan plate tank gear that you can get by simple questing, the AH or rep rewards up to revered.
Please note: This is not the "ultimate" pre-raid tanking guide - It excludes gear that drops from bosses in the 5 man runs since such drops are random and often require many runs of the same instance to obtain such gear. It also excludes epic crafted gear and gear that requires exalted faction rep. This guide is the "easy-to-get" gear guide to start tanking heroics and Karazhan.
The aim of the items is to increase stamina, defense, dodge/parry and armor. 490 defense is the target value to minimize crit chance against you. Once you hit 490 you should be aiming for a good balance between armor, stamina and avoidance (dodge+parry). Block Value will come naturally with the gear you collect. The head, chest, legs and shield contribute most to the tanking stats so aim to get these sorted above all else. 12k armor, 12k health and 30% dodge+parry is a good overall target.
Recommended green quality jewels are [Shifting Shadow Draenite] (red slots), [Thick Golden Draenite] and [Enduring Deep Peridot] (yellow slots) and [Solid Azure Moonstone] (blue slots). Remember that you do not have to match the jewel color to the slot color and you only give up the socket bonus if you take this approach. Suggested gems are shown as a guide only for each socketable item. Better quality gems are recommended if you can afford them.
*Highly recommended items - generally better than 5-man instance boss drops
v1.7 - Dec 3, 2007. Current for patch 2.3
Posted at -
http://tankspot.com/index.php?pageid...razhanTankGear
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...icId=387998850
Head
[Felsteel Helm]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=23519
Source: Crafted/AH - Requires L70
Suggested Gems: [Solid Azure Moonstone]x3
or
[Myrmidon's Headdress]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=28180
Source: L67 Quest - Zangarmarsh: The Warlord's Hideout (SV)
Suggested Gems: [Shifting Shadow Draenite] and [Powerful Earthstorm Diamond]
Recommended Enchant: [Glyph of the Defender] (Keepers of Time - Revered)
Neck
[Strength of the Untamed]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29173
Source: Cenarion Expedition quartermaster (Revered) - Requires L70
or
[Thalodien's Charm]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=30378
Source: L67 Quest - Netherstorm: Shutting Down Manaforge Ara (Scryers)
or
[Mark of the Ravenguard]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29336
Source: L65 Quest - Auch: Brother Against Brother (Sethekk)
Shoulder
[Warchief's Mantle]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29316
Source: L66 Quest - KoT BM: Return to Andormu
Suggested Gems: [Solid Azure Moonstone]x2
Recommended Enchant: Any Aldor or Scryer shoulder inscriptions
Cloak
[Cloak of Eternity]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=24253
Source: Crafted/AH - Requires L69
Recommended Enchant: +120 armor enchant or +12 agility enchant
Chest
[Vindicator's Hauberk]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29127
Source: Aldor quartermaster (Revered) - Requires L70
or
[Breastplate of the Warbringer]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=25819
Source: L66 Quest - Netherstorm: Forge Camp:Annihilated
Recommended Enchant: +150 HP enchant
Wrists
[Sha'tari Wrought Armguards]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=28167
Source: L68 Quest - Auch: Soul Devices (SL)
Suggested Gems: [Enduring Deep Peridot]
or
[Junior Technician 3rd Grade Bracers]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=30225
Source: L67 Quest - Netherstorm: You're Hired!
Recommended Enchant: +12 stamina (prefered) or +12 defense enchant
Gloves
[Felsteel Gloves]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=23517
Source: Crafted/AH - Requires L70
Suggested Gems: [Shifting Shadow Draenite] and [Solid Azure Moonstone]
or
[Gauntlets of the Chosen]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29134
Source: Scryers quartermaster (Revered) - Requires L70
Recommended Enchant: [Knothide Armor Kit] (+8 stamina) or +15 agil enchant or +2% threat
Belt
[Sha'tari Vindicator's Waistguard]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=31460
Source: L70 Quest - Netherstorm: How to Break Into the Arcatraz
or
[Girdle of the Lost Vindicator]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=30380
Source: L70 Quest - Netherstorm: Aldor No More (Aldor)
Legs
[Timewarden's Leggings]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29184
Source: Keepers of Time (Revered) - Requires L70
Suggested Gems: [Solid Azure Moonstone]x3
or
[Felsteel Leggings]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=23518
Source: Crafted/AH - Requires L70
Suggested Gems: [Solid Azure Moonstone], [Shifting Shadow Draenite] and [Enduring Deep Peridot]
or
[Legguards of the Resolute Defender]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29783
Source: L67 Quest - Netherstorm: Destroy Naberius!
Recommended Enchant: [Clefthide Leg Armor] (+30 stamina, +10 agility)
Feet
[Flesh Beast's Metal Greaves]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29325
Source: L64 Quest - Mana Tombs: Someone Else's Hard Work Pays Off (Escort)
or
[Sha'tari Wrought Greaves]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=28176
Source: L68 Quest - Auch: Into the Heart of the Labyrinth (SL)
Suggested Gems: [Solid Azure Moonstone]x2
Recommended Enchant: +12 stamina enchant
Rings
[Wind Trader's Band]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=30006
Source: L68 Quest - Netherstorm: Dealing with the Overmaster
[Protector's Mark of the Redemption]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=31078
Source: L68 Quest - SMV: Dissension Amongst the Ranks
[Delicate Eternium Ring]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=24088
Source: Crafted/AH - Requires L70
[Andormu's Tear]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29323
Source: L66 Quest, KoT BM: Hero of the Brood
Trinkets
[Dabiri's Enigma]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=30300
Source: L68 Quest - Netherstorm: Dimensius the All-Devouring
[Regal Protectorate]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=28042
Source: L58 Quest - HFP: Overlord(A)/Cruel's Intentions(H)
Weapon
[Grom'tor's Charge]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=31071
Source: L68 Quest - SMV: The Cipher of Damnation
or
[Crystalblade of the Draenei]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=31234
Source: World Drop/AH - Requires L66
or
[Crystalline Kopesh] (slightly slow for a tanking weapon)
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=25772
Source: L66 Quest - Nagrand: Wantedurn the Hungerer
Recommended Enchant: +15 agility or mongoose (prefered)
Some like battlemaster because it heals party wich = more threat
Shield
[Ogri'la Aegis]*
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=32652
Source: Ogri'la quartermaster (Revered) - Requires L70
Suggested Gems: [Solid Azure Moonstone]x3
or
[Netherwing Protector's Shield]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=31490
Source: L70 Quest - SMV: Ally of the Netherwing (Zuluhed chain)
or
[Shield of the Wayward Footman]
http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=31200
Source: AH - Requires L65
Recommended Enchant: +18 stamina enchant
Ranged (warriors)
(any green bow/gun/thrown with +stamina or +stam/agility)
Source: AH
Post a reply if you find this list useful or have any suggestions
Let's get some feedback on this from the membership. In the future, this will probably be turned into a webpage similar to:
TankSpot - Warcraft Warrior's Reference - Armstrong Devastate FAQ
I may jump in there and do some formatting before I make this change. I won't edit any information, just the format of the post for readability on a lighter background (for instance, the separator lines).
So I have been asked to write kara requirements for the prot warrior, So im going to do exactly that, and a little bit more. I hope that these will answer all your questions and help you out in the end game world. Enjoy
First thing im going to issue about is: Gear and stats for kara.
Part one: Attunment - Opera event
HP: 12000+
Armor: 12000+
Dodge block and parry and dodge all together: 60%
Defense: 490+
Note: To fit these requirements OUTSIDE of kara is very easy. Run instances and heroics…or craft the gear with BS
Here is a list of pre kara gear that is easy to get and available to all! http://www.tankspot.com/forums/gear-lists-rankings/31940-polars-easy-pre-karazhan-tank-gear-list.html
Part two: Curator and up
HP: 13000+
Armor 14000+
Dodge Block and parry and dodge all combined: 65%+
Note: these are pretty much minimal requirements in order to down the bosses with ease. I don't want to sound rude, cruel or mean, but anything less than these requirements for kara will be doing nothing but hurting the entire raid group. Like I said these stats are NOT hard to get.
Alright now that is all said and done I will give advice on Enchanting your gear.
Head piece: There is a head enchant from the CoT merchant, you need to be revered to buy this, and it will cost 90g
Shoulders: Aldor or Scryer merchant.
Chest: +150 health
Belt: N/A
Gloves: +2% Threat or Stam if you are already doing decent TPS
Bracers: +12 Stam
Legs: Clef hide armor kit, there are two good one for tanks, one is +30 Stam and one is +40 Stam
Boots: I am using Armor kits that give +8 Stam to my boots, but i am sure there is better. [I will update later]
Cape: +120Armor[i/]
Shield: [i]+18 Stam
Weapon: As of now the best one for tanks is the mongoose Enchant, cost roughly about 400G. I hear the battle Master enchant is good as well
Gems and your gear
All my Gems are +12 Stam they have higher ones too…
Meta Gem: +18 Stam +5% Resist stuns
Al right, i have been getting some questions about this.
"Psyto, why do you only stack stam gems, don't you need dodge, block, defense or parry?"
Well sure you do, but all my gear gives me PLENTY of these these stats.
Also i don't want to rely on dodging blocking or parrying, because if and when i do get hit by a boss, such as grull or Prince (which does 12k damage in about 10 seconds) i simply wont have the health to back me up for these hits. "Murphy's Law — if you can have long strings of not Dodging an attack, it will definitely happen. Raid tanking, ultimately, is about stability."
Another thing is, I don't get rage or produce threat when i dodge or parry (ok i get +1 rage when i block, big numbers =)
No rage means less threat, if i have a BIG Health pool to back up all the hits im taking i will still get plently of rage and be able to produce my threat.
Many healers will also say it is MUCH easier to heal a Stam warrior than an avoidance Warrior.
This topic is widely debated and discussed.
Thanks to Ciderhelm we have a complete and detailed information about this topic here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=91629683&postId=915014513&sid=1
Every tank SHOULD read that!
Threat
Assuming you know what threat is.
a good TPS (threat per second) is roughly 800+ if you can stay around there your doing good!
Here is a complete guide to threat. http://www.tankspot.com/forums/evil-empire-guides/33108-guide-threat.html
Attacks to use, and maximizing your threat
I have been getting questions about this, this is hard however because everybody plays differently.
here a baseline
Heroic strike for rage dump, cuases alot of threat
Shield Slam your most threat generating attack, i use every time its up
Sunder..of coarse
Revenge I use every time its up
Shield block, i use every time its up, on bosses, if you don't hit shield block every possible moment you can, your risk of wiping is much greater.
Demoralizing should be on the target at all times
Thunder clap should be on the target at all times.
Devastate, i do use frequently, not just to renew my sunders.
Conculsion
I am done for now, and I will update this frequently
As you can see i spent alot of time researching this Info and have things to back it up.
Any additional questions please ask me in this thread, most likely you wont be the only person with that question
First Name: Justin
Age: 19
Is this your main: Yes
Heroic keys: All
Past Raid Experience: Kara to prince.
Times that you usually are on server time: about 8pm server till 3-4 am server
Days a week you play wow: Every
Days a week you CANT play wow: None, unless something weird happens.
How many hours a day do you usually play for: 8hrs
Kara attuned if not have you started and if
so how far into the quest chain are you: Yes
Do you have your normal flyer atleast: Yes
Would you be willing to respec for raids and whats your current?: Yes, MS Fury (DPS)
Are you on a arena team 2v2 3v3 5v5: 2v2, 3v3
What are your professions: Blacksmithing and Skinning
You have any threat addons IE Omen/ktm: Yes, Omen
Link to your wowarmory.com profile: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arathor&n=Alazair
Something interesting about yourself: hmmm….i designed this site?
1) Your title for the post should be your characters name.
2) Dont worry about the summary to much.
Here is the template for the body.
First Name:
Age:
Is this your main:
Heroic keys:
Past Raid Experience:
Times that you usually are on server time:
Days a week you play wow:
Days a week you CANT play wow:
How many hours a day do you usually play for:
Kara attuned if not have you started and if
so how far into the quest chain are you:
Do you have your normal flyer atleast:
Would you be willing to respec for raids:
Are you on a arena team 2v2 3v3 5v5:
What are your professions:
Link to your wowarmory.com profile:
Something interesting about yourself:
in discussion Announcements! / News » Friday, December 28, 2007 11:25am CST
Site is up. Got the whole basic layout of the site done. Needs some graphic touches banner and what not. Everyone should check the raid forums. Sign up for the one that suits you. Umm I'd like some one from each class that has decent raid experience to post what the min reqs for downing hunts\midnight is for your class. and the pre-kara gear for your class if you could link it to wowhead that would be awesome. this is to help others get prepared. I'd Also like every single person in the general section of the forums, In the meet and greet area. To start a thread with your name if your level 70 and use the template located here this is so that when we designate class leaders (hopefully soon) we can easly get everyone up and going.
That is all.
Please use this template to fill in whats known so far.
Currently Team 3 Leader Is: Krayzie
Raid Invites go out at server time: 10:30pm
Starts by: 11:pm
Loot Rules: If the gear works for your class
and spec then /roll when it's announced to
for that specific item. Unless stated otherwise.
Roster of players that will be there every night!
Krayzie - holy pally
Starrfairy - holy priest
Alazair - Ms Fury warr
Open Classes:
Others on waiting list to fill if needed:
Please use this template to fill in whats known so far.
Currently Team 2 Leader Is:
Raid Invites go out at server time:
Starts by:
Loot Rules:
Roster of players that will be there every night!
Open Classes:
Others on waiting list to fill if needed:
Please use this template to fill in whats known so far.
Currently Team 1 Leader Is:
Raid Invites go out at server time:
Starts by:
Loot Rules:
Roster of players that will be there every night!
Open Classes:
Others on waiting list to fill if needed: